Less lethal weapons, thought or ideas anyone
Quote from Jason Wilterdink on September 1, 2020, 9:29 PMHi All
Things have been crazy for me on a personal front. I literally did not even read all of this thread. But I am going to tell you all that for large scale rioting my #1 choice without a doubt are the products manufactured by the Pepper Ball Company. I was once certified with them as an instructor (I had held tons of "private industry" certification). It is great for many, many application, which we WILL get in to if anyone ever takes an "advanced" class with me.
For daily activity (not crown control) a small plastic streamer pepper spray with a pocket clip is my first choice while hiking, biking, or walking the dog.
My EDC is manufactured by ASP and it is knows as the key defender. It is NOT a streamer it delivers spray in a cone shaped mist.
These items are all VERY different and they serve their purposes very well.
Jason
Tactical Trainer / Instructor
Hi All
Things have been crazy for me on a personal front. I literally did not even read all of this thread. But I am going to tell you all that for large scale rioting my #1 choice without a doubt are the products manufactured by the Pepper Ball Company. I was once certified with them as an instructor (I had held tons of "private industry" certification). It is great for many, many application, which we WILL get in to if anyone ever takes an "advanced" class with me.
For daily activity (not crown control) a small plastic streamer pepper spray with a pocket clip is my first choice while hiking, biking, or walking the dog.
My EDC is manufactured by ASP and it is knows as the key defender. It is NOT a streamer it delivers spray in a cone shaped mist.
These items are all VERY different and they serve their purposes very well.
Jason
Tactical Trainer / Instructor
Quote from Jason Wilterdink on September 1, 2020, 9:38 PMTrying to catch up here.
Every year I teach a large amount on this topic. I have given hundreds of students (close to thousands) voluntary exposures during training. I have tried commercial products, milk (because it is a "base"), irrigation from an IV bag, and baby shampoo. The winner, hands down, is..... lots of water, then baby shampoo (no more tears from johnson and johnson), then more water, then more baby shampoo, then water, then air dry.
This is yet another topic I can offer training in if ya'all are interested.
I would also love to host / run a pepper ball training session.
Jason
Tactical Trainer / Instructor
Trying to catch up here.
Every year I teach a large amount on this topic. I have given hundreds of students (close to thousands) voluntary exposures during training. I have tried commercial products, milk (because it is a "base"), irrigation from an IV bag, and baby shampoo. The winner, hands down, is..... lots of water, then baby shampoo (no more tears from johnson and johnson), then more water, then more baby shampoo, then water, then air dry.
This is yet another topic I can offer training in if ya'all are interested.
I would also love to host / run a pepper ball training session.
Jason
Tactical Trainer / Instructor
Quote from Jason Wilterdink on September 1, 2020, 9:46 PMalso, once again. Forgive me for my typos. I am just busy, not an idiot.
Jason
also, once again. Forgive me for my typos. I am just busy, not an idiot.
Jason
Quote from HQ_Admin on September 2, 2020, 1:24 AMQuote from Jason Wilterdink on September 1, 2020, 9:38 PMTrying to catch up here.
Every year I teach a large amount on this topic. I have given hundreds of students (close to thousands) voluntary exposures during training. I have tried commercial products, milk (because it is a "base"), irrigation from an IV bag, and baby shampoo. The winner, hands down, is..... lots of water, then baby shampoo (no more tears from johnson and johnson), then more water, then more baby shampoo, then water, then air dry.
This is yet another topic I can offer training in if ya'all are interested.
I would also love to host / run a pepper ball training session.
Jason
Tactical Trainer / Instructor
This is, again, great information Jason. Glad we have you aboard.
Quote from Jason Wilterdink on September 1, 2020, 9:38 PMTrying to catch up here.
Every year I teach a large amount on this topic. I have given hundreds of students (close to thousands) voluntary exposures during training. I have tried commercial products, milk (because it is a "base"), irrigation from an IV bag, and baby shampoo. The winner, hands down, is..... lots of water, then baby shampoo (no more tears from johnson and johnson), then more water, then more baby shampoo, then water, then air dry.
This is yet another topic I can offer training in if ya'all are interested.
I would also love to host / run a pepper ball training session.
Jason
Tactical Trainer / Instructor
This is, again, great information Jason. Glad we have you aboard.