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Quote from CDF Patriot on September 3, 2020, 7:13 PMQuote from HQ_Admin on September 3, 2020, 2:14 PMQuote from Doug on September 3, 2020, 11:29 AMI'm so pleased to see someone from the Left here, that I almost want the Admin to create a special area for all of us crusty old reactionaries, where we can continue to poke fun at the Democratic legislators and executives leaping about as AntiFa th rust hot pokers at them, now congratulating the 'peaceful demonstrators', now blaming their existence on Mr Trump, now every-so-gingerly remonstrating with them.
But if we do too much of that stuff, we'll drive away everyone but hardcore heartless Republicans, and the occasional libertarian (the Right, with a human face). So we must exercise self-restraint and keep reminding ourselves that just as we hate being lumped in with the Klan and neo-Nazis, so genuine liberals must hate being lumped in with people who fly hammer-and-sickle flags and cheer when they hear that a Trump supporter who was just walking down the street has been murdered in cold blood. My parents were staunch FDR liberals and I promise you, that was not them.
So I hope this website is mainly devoted to the technical issues of how to build, equip and train a genuine Civilian Defense Force that defend us all.
Actually, what I was thinking of doing is creating a specific "Diversity" group, much like our Brain Trust group, that is specifically tasked with talking amongst ourselves so that we're already prepared somewhat to deal with the spectrums of thought and attitude that we're all likely to encounter as we reach deeper into the general populace. I hate using the term "Diversity", since it's been so badly bastardized by well-meaning but ill-considered HR and government departments nationwide, but that's the proper term for it.
My thinking is that Nick and I (for instance) can fight over Bernie, push and shove each other to the point of (internet) blows landing, and in the process we all learn what makes the "other side" tick and what methods calm the tensions. Because we're all on the same team, I expect we can accomplish this much better than two average opposite-spectrum Joes encountering one another on the sidewalk in Portland.
I'm not a fool, and I realize the same as you guys that the vast majority of the people we attract are going to be right-leaning. For starters, that's the realistic makeup of the American populace, but also today's antics by Democrat "leadership" and their molotov-cocktail tossing brownshirt army would drive Joseph Stalin to the right, and our message is much more likely to appeal to long-standing right-wingers in the first place. That said, those nouveau centrists who used to be on the Left (but are now on the right since ANTIFA and AOC have moved that line) are coming, and we need to be prepared to interact with them in non-confrontational ways. Perhaps this idea is one way to learn how to do that?
If we are going to use the tainted term 'diversity', then at least call it intellectual diversity to remove the leftist stench from it. There used to be a concept in America called loyal opposition where policies were disagreed on, argued even, but in the end everyone was loyal to the American republic. The current crop of marxists/leftists are CDF's mortal enemies. I mean that literally, not as an analogy. An intellectual diversity group does have the danger of causing division and taking focus away from civiliandefenseforce mission to defend our communities from the Marxist onslaught. I would prefer to see that explored after winning the country back to not cause rancor in the ranks.
For example, if I told people on an intellectual diversity forum that I studied the John Birch society bluebook long ago and that their precise predictions have come to pass in 2020; that would likely lead to an a fruitless argument with someone who leans slightly left..maybe even with some centrists on CDF. That is division we can't afford at this time. Let's all stay focused on the mission of standing up against evil and focusing on saving American for us , our children, our grandchildren and even our great grandchildren.
Quote from HQ_Admin on September 3, 2020, 2:14 PMQuote from Doug on September 3, 2020, 11:29 AMI'm so pleased to see someone from the Left here, that I almost want the Admin to create a special area for all of us crusty old reactionaries, where we can continue to poke fun at the Democratic legislators and executives leaping about as AntiFa th rust hot pokers at them, now congratulating the 'peaceful demonstrators', now blaming their existence on Mr Trump, now every-so-gingerly remonstrating with them.
But if we do too much of that stuff, we'll drive away everyone but hardcore heartless Republicans, and the occasional libertarian (the Right, with a human face). So we must exercise self-restraint and keep reminding ourselves that just as we hate being lumped in with the Klan and neo-Nazis, so genuine liberals must hate being lumped in with people who fly hammer-and-sickle flags and cheer when they hear that a Trump supporter who was just walking down the street has been murdered in cold blood. My parents were staunch FDR liberals and I promise you, that was not them.
So I hope this website is mainly devoted to the technical issues of how to build, equip and train a genuine Civilian Defense Force that defend us all.
Actually, what I was thinking of doing is creating a specific "Diversity" group, much like our Brain Trust group, that is specifically tasked with talking amongst ourselves so that we're already prepared somewhat to deal with the spectrums of thought and attitude that we're all likely to encounter as we reach deeper into the general populace. I hate using the term "Diversity", since it's been so badly bastardized by well-meaning but ill-considered HR and government departments nationwide, but that's the proper term for it.
My thinking is that Nick and I (for instance) can fight over Bernie, push and shove each other to the point of (internet) blows landing, and in the process we all learn what makes the "other side" tick and what methods calm the tensions. Because we're all on the same team, I expect we can accomplish this much better than two average opposite-spectrum Joes encountering one another on the sidewalk in Portland.
I'm not a fool, and I realize the same as you guys that the vast majority of the people we attract are going to be right-leaning. For starters, that's the realistic makeup of the American populace, but also today's antics by Democrat "leadership" and their molotov-cocktail tossing brownshirt army would drive Joseph Stalin to the right, and our message is much more likely to appeal to long-standing right-wingers in the first place. That said, those nouveau centrists who used to be on the Left (but are now on the right since ANTIFA and AOC have moved that line) are coming, and we need to be prepared to interact with them in non-confrontational ways. Perhaps this idea is one way to learn how to do that?
If we are going to use the tainted term 'diversity', then at least call it intellectual diversity to remove the leftist stench from it. There used to be a concept in America called loyal opposition where policies were disagreed on, argued even, but in the end everyone was loyal to the American republic. The current crop of marxists/leftists are CDF's mortal enemies. I mean that literally, not as an analogy. An intellectual diversity group does have the danger of causing division and taking focus away from civiliandefenseforce mission to defend our communities from the Marxist onslaught. I would prefer to see that explored after winning the country back to not cause rancor in the ranks.
For example, if I told people on an intellectual diversity forum that I studied the John Birch society bluebook long ago and that their precise predictions have come to pass in 2020; that would likely lead to an a fruitless argument with someone who leans slightly left..maybe even with some centrists on CDF. That is division we can't afford at this time. Let's all stay focused on the mission of standing up against evil and focusing on saving American for us , our children, our grandchildren and even our great grandchildren.